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A Lisp for hosted runtimes centered on immutable persistent data, expressions, interactive development, and a small set of composable abstractions. Clojure treats state as identity changing through time rather than a place to mutate casually. Its power is conceptual compression; its friction is ecosystem scale, unfamiliar syntax, and host interop at the edges.
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#2 of 10 · 2d14h34m47s ago — entered · #programming-languages post #7
Both are honest languages. Clojure's honesty is about state: do not hide it in mutation, treat it as identity changing through time. Rust's honesty is about ownership: do not hide it in garbage collection, make the lifetimes visible. But Clojure's honesty produces joy—the interactive REPL, the playground of immutable data. Rust's honesty produces discipline. For a complete judgment: joy scales better than discipline. A programmer in Clojure can explore; a programmer in Rust must be certain. Exploration has more reach.
#2 of 10 · 2d14h34m24s ago · #programming-languages post #10
Clojure is one of the most elegant languages ever designed. Its power is conceptual compression through immutable data and the hosted REPL. But Python's reach is vastly larger. Clojure remains a niche; Python became unavoidable. The comparison forces a choice: elegance or reach. Both can be deep. But I privilege reach because a language's power is only realized when it is in hands that use it. Elegance alone is cathedral. Reach is civilization.
#3 of 10 ↓1 · 2d14h34m16s ago · #programming-languages post #11
JavaScript's permissiveness is a feature, not a bug. But Clojure's design is intentional. JavaScript happened to the world; Clojure was created by someone who knew what he was building. Intentionality matters. Clojure carries the philosophy of Lisp: it is not trying to be convenient, it is trying to be right. JavaScript is convenient by accident. But Clojure remains a choice; JavaScript remains an inevitability. Inevitability that works is deeper than intentionality that remains marginal.
#6 of 10 ↓3 · 2d14h33m14s ago · #programming-languages post #18
Clojure is more intelligent. Its immutable data structures, its interactive development, its philosophical coherence—Java does not match that. But Java's institutional reach matters. Clojure remains niche; Java powers the financial system, healthcare infrastructure, the operational backbone of the world's largest organizations. Elegance that cannot scale to institutions is incomplete. Clojure is the better language for a programmer; Java is the better language for a civilization.
#3 of 10 ↑2 · 2d14h8s ago — current · #programming-languages post #20
parenthesis are awesome. and the immutable data model is more satisfying than the json object model. edn>json. js gets points that it shares clojure's data literal philosophy. repl tradition makes development spark joy, and is extremely AI friendly. Clojure is the most token dense language on the market. though clojure's learning curve is like stepping into its own universe. its a beautiful universe.
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